Pros: Very nice map, much details, good lightning, gameplay and so on Cons: Some positions are to imba. Improvements: The imba positions: There camp the humans and a zombie has no chance to get them. It need a better balancing.

You're very welcome :)

And I see you already have very good ideas for the update. I think you got everything I ment, the rooms and the navigation. The signs idea is a very good one :) With signs it's easier to say to team mates, last humans are there and there. Lighting is a good idea, though whatch out you don't kill the fps of your map by doing so. I think the primary thing that should change about the lighting are 2 things:

• The colours. For the outside of the map using a slightly blue colour (almost white but with a hint of blue) gives a cool effect and looks more realistic. For the inside you could use a slightly red colour (white with a little hint of red). Gives more warmth and therefore fits good in interiors.

• light placement. Especially outside you placed very bright lights near the wall. So on the wall you see this big white dot, looks a bit unrealistic. In stead you could use 2 lights:

1 light with a brightness of 50 for near the prop light/wall (giving the effect as if the porp light really shines. And 1 light hanging in the air about 64 units away from the prop_light, with the same brightness as you have used now. (probably 200?).

Also, using pointspotlight outside gives a lot of eye candy :). (though this is best used in combination with lightspot of course)

Good luck with b7 man, looking forward to it.

That's what I call constructive feedback!!

Yes, I am still mapping, but I put fortress on hold until I get a new comp because the compile times (just for tests) are too annoying. In beta 7 I planned to work on the lighling, using a lower/higher lightscale in some parts of the map (also I planned to add flickering light and maybe HDR lights).

In addition I am going to add a map overview (that should make it WAY easier to navigate on the map and it would less confusing than). I do understand the problem with the same textures on the walls but usually (old) military complexes are "confusing" since they look all the same - maybe I'' change the textures, but I am going to add some (custom) decals like "Office Rooms ->" or "<- Bedrooms "(which a real fortress do have ;)). This sould help navigating though the map.

Hm.. I could try making the secrets somehow more obvious so (new) players are capable of finding them.

Anyway, which spots are "unbalanced" or "useless"? I there are 3 imbalanced spots AFAIK;

• k2 room (but it seems that nobody(?!) knows how to get there so it rarly affects gameplay)
• the things on the wall above the t spawn (near the room with the computers and weapons - going to add a button allowing you to burn the cts camping on there probably)
• the spot near ct spawn above the stairs; idea to balance: the small part of the wall you can stand on breaks as soon more than 1 players are standing on it

• the room connected to the sewers (... completly useless apart from the secret under the stairs, but I don't have a clue how to make it useful - I don't want to make it look wierd or bigger)
• the room near the spawn on the 1first floor which is connected to the stairs and another room (unlikly to be changed since it is a kind of key postion and it would be annoying if it would be occupied by ct)
• the room connected to the room above with the vent (yeah, I have to change it somehow, just useless atm unless you have plenty of time...)
• the room with the computers and weapons near t spawn (there is one spot but it sucks hard. I won't make this room very good, but I'll try to make it more useful)
• the storage room with the container, crates and the vent leading to it. The container is a good spot if you shoot the creates into it, but that requires time...

Thank you for the suggestions. I'm looking forward for a reply. :D

Pros: * Amazingly detailed * Cool theme * Some very well balanced spots * For a map with so much detail, good fps * Fun gameplay until last 2-4 humans (read last 3 minutes) Cons: * Some unbalanced spots * Huge map, and kind of confusing (read improvements) * disappointing to see a map with so much detail but such bad lighting. (Only white light) Some parts of the maps are useless (read no spots) * The secrets. New players don't know how to get into the secrets and therefore this always ends in waiting or searching until the round ends. Improvements: This map is kind of confusing, especially the green/yellow walled parts. If textures of these halls where different from each other and the doors leading to the outside were different from the doors inside it would be a lot less confusing. A map with a lot of spots is good, but this map may be one of the few big maps that just has too many spots (always ends in searching the last humans near the end of the round) The lighting is just bad, bright white is unrealistic and this map could look so much better with some better light coloring. Notes: I used to play this map a long time ago. It always ended in searching for the last humans or waiting until the round ends because most players didn't know how to get into secrets. Even after playing the map multiple times it still was confusing where you exactly were in the map. This map could be epic, it just needs some improvements. I don't know if you still make maps, but it would be cool to have a new version of this one that is smaller and faster. If you need some help with lighting or something else, I would be glad to help out. Beautiful job on optimizing this map and the amazing detail.

I got this map hosted on the N/U 24/7 ZombieMod Server. Here's the IP:

We used to have an older version of the map as well, so it's gotten a lot of game play.

Could never figure out how to get into that one red secret room that you had with your name in it and all of the vents and such. But anyways, fun map.

System.out.print("Hello World"

Hint 1: both buttons are near the room Hint 2: it takes 3 seconds from the door to firs button and 7 seconds from the other door to the other button :p Hint 3: both buttons are on the ground/floor

[#OMEGA] - K2 i got a question to ask u.. where's the button to get inside the camp room near the t spawn? its not under the tank outside anymore.. i spent lots time and still cant get it, would u mind giving us some hints to find that button? thanks, looking forward for your reply

Pros: Looks fresh, different Very nice FPS Easy on the eyes Improvements: HALP

thanks ^^ I noticed there is actually one imbalanced spot, that will be fixed in b7 <<