Pros: Fun and looks new, the boat is beautiful! Cons: The main problem i have was, as a solder i like to take the high ground, and when running along the top of the cargo in the ware house... your a snipers best friend.

Pros: looks great and plays well Cons: agreed the second control point is a letdown but thats all I have too say Improvements: none since this a the first beta Notes: maybe a few shields and and ramps at the hallway in the third stage last cap would go nicely with this map

I agree with other people about the second cap point on the third section - that hallway is just too much of a bottleneck, it just gets camped by sentries, projectile spam and heavies spamming into it with dispensers.

Another issue is that there's potentially too much freedom on the first dock section with demoman and soldier, they can just jump on top of the structures around the first CP ignoring most defense, making it too easy to destroy sentries in common areas.

Great map though, it's a surprise to see a custom map that actually plays comparable to stock maps.

Notes: we are running it more and more on our server. hope to see b2 or final soon! =-D

Hey, when is b2 coming out?!?!

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Hey, something else to fix in b2.... in the first area by the boat, there are several solid objects that sentry guns can shoot through. We had a guy build a sentry under the dock and it shot people when they spawned inside the boat. :o

Also, in the second area, second point (so technically, the 4th point), pyros are able to set people on fire from beneath the point - even if they can't see the individual and there is only solid surfaces between the individual the pyro.

Let me know when b2 is coming out!!!!

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The visual effects in this map are simply stunning. You did an excellent job all around on this map, i've come to conclude. I only wish that you would make an assault map where red takes over blue, because I'd like to see more of the BLU style buildings and stuff. I prefer the cooler colors to the warmer RED colors. I'm sure someone will at some point, though, bud i'd like to see it from you.

The thing is, the third point, second cap, is IMPOSSIBLE to capture. seriously.

One more request.... can you change it so it scores like dustbowl? It's very discouraging for players to lose the entire round when they get all but one cap point.

Please let me know when it's updated. Everyone loves the map!

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Pros: Obvious attention to details – everything looks fantastic!! Gameplay is also great - lots of routes and paths everywhere keeps everyone on their toes. Cons: Just minor stuff, such as preventing demomen from sticky-jumping to the 2nd point. (1st stage). I also wish there was a bit more protection for offense on the 3rd stage... it can be tricky for a team to get out of spawn if defense has lots of sentries placed correctly. Improvements: Fix the spawn doors - but I'm sure you're quite aware of that now. Notes: This map is already becoming a favorite in the mapvotes on our server... We love this style of map (Attack/Defend - like Dustbowl/Gravelpit.)

Thanks for taking the time to make this map. Seeing as this is your first TF2 map, I honestly can't WAIT to see what you have up your sleeve next...

Pros: Fun map, I like the stages, similar to dust bowl. Cons: The third stage last cap was very difficult to attack, never capped it. Improvements: Another rout into the large room at the end would help. I know there's a hole you can rocket/sticky jump up through but it goes to the same hallway. Notes: I still had a blast on this map despite not getting the last cap.