Avanti is a daily staple on the Necrophix server. It is much nicer looking than avantiville, and I have no problems with the theme.

The biggest improvement this map could use would be to add forward spawn rooms, as opposed to spawning out in the open. This will help with camping and with death on class change.

I also agree about the map times needing to be adjusted. Also, spawning where you can be sniped (first spawn, attackers) should be fixed.

Other ideas include trying to embrace the TF2 CTF style. This could be accomplished by replacing the cap points with TF2 style capture zones. The zones could easily switch after a cap, eliminating some of the confusion by players seeing the CP-style cap points.

Look forward to an update.

Thanks, great map!

Pros: Avanti is one of my favorite maps from TFC, and it's been lovingly recreated for TF2.

Cons: Unfortunately, some things don't translate as well when everything is kept the same as before and a perfect port of an officially-released and popular 90's map doesn't necessarily guarantee that it will live up to today's standards. A certain evolution needs to be made and, stylistic choices aside, there could have been much more done to this map to make it even better than the original.

Improvements: While I fully understand and respect the intention to faithfully recreate Avanti, maybe Sacrifist could consider giving us an "Uber" edition - utilizing the full power of Hammer and some of the new assets that are packaged with it (in addition to any custom textures, props, etc.) I would like to see several elements improved, including but not limited to; the bottleneck/spamfest area in front of the attacking team's respawn area (maybe by providing access to upper level from behind the gates), a tightening up of the second to last CP area, and a redesign of the entire church itself (which would be amazing with a spire-like final CP at the top of a two or three flight climb (or jump).

Notes: As much criticism as I have for Sacrifist, I have double the love for him because he's hell bent on bringing the classics back into the fold. Considering the differences between TFC and TF2, that's no small feat and he's done an admirable job so far. Now it's time to grow, not only by porting more of those maps we loved so much... but being bold enough to try to make them better.