Thanks for the feedback Chicky and I agree about the size. The middle section was never intended to be /that/ large, but it just kind of went that way. I've considered doing a quick redeux (again) that completely clipped the center from the map and had the two houses and a splitting center archway... but I don't have a lot of time on my hands for foolin' about with this guy anymore.

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At first, I thought it may have just been all in my head, yes. But no matter how hard I try, I just cannot get up that rockface the same way as I can with RED's. To help give you an idea of what I'm seeing, I recorded a demo, which you can download and run in tf2. http://www.sendspace.com/file/6rulna

Again, though. Rocks aside, I really dig the map.

That seems pretty unusual, given that both sides are exact duplicates of each other. You sure it's not a psychological thing going on?

I agree the middle is kinda plain, one of the original working versions had a lot more going on with cabins on the ceiling and soforth but wound up being scrapped. I feel I didn't push the theme hard enough with this map, but there's always next time. Probaly in Portal because I like causing motion sickness.

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I like the gimmick, although the middle of the map is kinda plain. One thing I noticed is that climbing the rocks up the side of BLU's base is slightly more difficult than it is for RED, it seems to be impossible to get on the rocks for BLU unless you jump from a specific direction, whereas RED just allows you to jump on rather easily.

There's a level in Sin as well, I think it was called... wait, I can't remember. Anyway, yeah. You'd go through teleporters and wind up walking on the walls or roof. It was pretty cool, a few people tried to remake it for Sin Episodes (how is it episodes when there's only one?) but Source lacks the tools to pull it off. I might have to code my own method of doing that simply to build the ultimate relativity map.

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Really nice idea and very well executed. Unfortunately the constraints of the game limit the extent to which such an idea can be realised. I remember playing a 'staircases' map on Serious Sam some years ago, where gravity was attached to each individual staircase - you could be running around and look up and see someone else on another case looking up at you, or sidewise and so on. Jumping off a case usually resulted in many twists and turns as you fell through the gravity plains and eventually landed on your feet somewhere. If anything remotely similar was possible in TF2 that would be special

Oh...he should have showed that! It was late so I didn't want to load the map up in TF2. :D

Apex.

The screenshots don't show it but there are some sideways rooms. When you climb the tower the rooms change from upsidedown to sideways to rightside up. What's even better is the sideways rooms have windows and doors so you can misstep and fall through a doorway if you aren't careful or escape through the door if need be.

Pros: Beautiful. Nice touches like the red and blue factories dumping into the lake in the background. Great concept that appears to be nicely executed after a first look. Cons: None that I've seen yet.
Notes: I've only walked through the map alone, so I left 'fun' and 'gameplay' ratings at 5, but the map looks gorgeous and I can't wait to run this on our focusedgaming.com server this week and weekend.