Pros: - fresh/new idea for payload - simple layout of map Cons: - a veritable mix of tf2 and hl2 models and textures looks odd and out of place. - a complete lack of flanking options for blue leads to red snipers having a field day between points 1 and 2 (especially after the train has gotten to point 2, as there's no longer any cover at all) - the train never recedes as a standard payload would. receding is important as it keeps the bomb at whereever the front line is, and lets people feel they are making a difference when they touch it. - the carriages and train can trap people when they turn corners. i'd suggest looking at the key values and flags of the bomb cart and it's entities in a decompiled badwater or goldrush in order to see what is needed. - the final explosions feels very lackluster. consider a large explosion that vaporises all the carriages. - the enclosed carriage is a nuisance to get into. consider making the doors bigger - although the blue spawn is interesting and spacious, the red spawn is VERY cramped. - red windows have breakable glass. this lets red snipers attack blue from within the spawnroom (making them VERY hard to kill unless you are a good sniper yourself). - the red spawn points face a door that locks after blue takes the 1st point. the annoying thing is that this means people spawn and have to do a 180, go upstairs, and get out of the door on the other side. - the HUD being broken - i'm guessing it's because you made each carriage it's own train, thus the HUD is receiving 3 inputs of train position simultaneously. i'd suggest referencing pl_frontier, which has a train+carriage and has no problems with the HUD. - the train does not kill sentrys/teleports/dispensers that it runs over. at one point this led to me having a level 3 sentry that could not be sapped or shot at but could still shoot and damage the enemy. - another con: in certain parts of the map, the skybox shows up in odd ways (i.e. making it look like a giant hill is right in front of you). this can be fixed by lowering the areas in your skybox that overlap the corresponding parts of the gameplay map. Improvements: unfortunately there's a lot of work to be done, but i think if you take the time/effort you could have a very good/fun map here. Notes: don't use so many feedback options, not all of them are relevant to the map, and most of them overlap a lot

Pros: This maps is very detailed. The effort is very good and i especially love the industrial/city look that you've accomplished with the buildings.

The trainyard acts as a great obstacle to make the game more interesting as well as the bridge adding different levels which creates a much more interesting game experience. I love the whole concept and i think that this map a potential sequel up its belt.

The size is great for action packed gaming and this deffinatly offers a unique experience to Team Fortress 2. Cons: Not many i can think of but i do think that quality of the screenshots which doesn't help the map reach its full potential.

I also find that outside the map their is wasteland which doesn't suite the maps realistic design and ambience. Improvements:

• Create a skybox that accomanies the industrial and city look.
• Higher Detailed Screenshots (ask other members to help) Notes: I do really love this map and hope for you to create more if not a sequel.
  

  Super Moderator Bananite